Dr. James White debates Jehovah's Witness Mr. Greg Stafford, I think Dr. White did a great job in this debate and hopefully you will find this debate enjoyable, comments welcome!
1. GOD the Father 2. GOD the Son 3. GOD the holy spirit
And officially to quote Athanasius "and yet not" THREE god(S)
Sounds like Athanasius wanted to have his "POLY-theism" cake AND eat it!
So the real question is for you and all trinitarians:
How MANY god(s) do you have?
ONE God or THREE?
How many god(s) IN ACTUALITY do you really worship?
If you REALLY DO WORSHIP:
1. GOD the Father 2. GOD the Son 3. GOD the holy spirit
Athanasius and his "yet not(s)" is a very, veryflimsy excuse for POLY-theism to thinking people and doesn't fool the Creator either.
A MYSTERY can be used as an EXCUSE for anything including POLY-theism = the worship of THREE GOD(S)!
Just like the Jew's pure worship was replaced by the MAN'S TRADITION so to the TRADITION of Athanasius "THREE-god(S)-in-one-trinity" has replaced the simple and easy to understand concept of ONE GOD ONLY who has no equals.
Thanks for your post, let me get right into it. You seem to make the same mistake as all cultists do by confusing "essence" with "person hood".
You say How MANY god(s) do you have? ONE God or THREE?"
The Bible is very clear that there is only one God, ( Isaiah 45:5, 44:8, 43:10, Deuteronomy 6:4) However the Bible also teaches that the Father is God, the Son is God ( John 20:28, Colossians 1:16, John 1:1,1:3, Hebrews 1) and that the Holy Spirit is God ( Acts 5:3,4, 1 Corinthians 3:18, Hebrews 9:14)
So you have a misconception of what the Trinity is and falsely accuse it of being polytheism.
Lastly you say Just like the Jew's pure worship was replaced by the MAN'S TRADITION so to the TRADITION of Athanasius "THREE-god(S)-in-one-trinity" has replaced the simple and easy to understand concept of ONE GOD ONLY who has no equals."
This is a logical fallacy on your part where you are "Begging the question". You have not demonstrated from scripture that the Trinity is false, or that it teaches 3 gods, you merely assert it does. I have given scripture to back my case, if you want to actually support what your saying then you need to give actual arguments to demonstrate that your claim is true, simply asserting something is not an argument
True Holy God trinity but you believed that Father one God. not three person. Ok, you are response in the same as Jews said to Jesus in Jhn 8:41-43 "...We have one Father--even God." 42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.43 "Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word." Ok, Jesus said, If God were your Father, you would love me. see?
Officially your Churches teach THREE god(S)
ReplyDelete1. GOD the Father
2. GOD the Son
3. GOD the holy spirit
And officially to quote Athanasius "and yet not" THREE god(S)
Sounds like Athanasius wanted to have his "POLY-theism" cake AND eat it!
So the real question is for you and all trinitarians:
How MANY god(s) do you have?
ONE God or THREE?
How many god(s) IN ACTUALITY do you really worship?
If you REALLY DO WORSHIP:
1. GOD the Father
2. GOD the Son
3. GOD the holy spirit
Athanasius and his "yet not(s)" is a very, very flimsy excuse for POLY-theism to thinking people and doesn't fool the Creator either.
A MYSTERY can be used as an EXCUSE for anything including POLY-theism = the worship of THREE GOD(S)!
Just like the Jew's pure worship was replaced by the MAN'S TRADITION so to the TRADITION of Athanasius "THREE-god(S)-in-one-trinity" has replaced the simple and easy to understand concept of ONE GOD ONLY who has no equals.
Matt13weedhacker
ReplyDeleteThanks for your post, let me get right into it. You seem to make the same mistake as all cultists do by confusing "essence" with "person hood".
You say How MANY god(s) do you have?
ONE God or THREE?"
The Bible is very clear that there is only one God, ( Isaiah 45:5, 44:8, 43:10, Deuteronomy 6:4) However the Bible also teaches that the Father is God, the Son is God ( John 20:28, Colossians 1:16, John 1:1,1:3, Hebrews 1) and that the Holy Spirit is God ( Acts 5:3,4, 1 Corinthians 3:18, Hebrews 9:14)
So you have a misconception of what the Trinity is and falsely accuse it of being polytheism.
Lastly you say Just like the Jew's pure worship was replaced by the MAN'S TRADITION so to the TRADITION of Athanasius "THREE-god(S)-in-one-trinity" has replaced the simple and easy to understand concept of ONE GOD ONLY who has no equals."
This is a logical fallacy on your part where you are "Begging the question". You have not demonstrated from scripture that the Trinity is false, or that it teaches 3 gods, you merely assert it does. I have given scripture to back my case, if you want to actually support what your saying then you need to give actual arguments to demonstrate that your claim is true, simply asserting something is not an argument
True Holy God trinity but you believed that Father one God. not three person. Ok, you are response in the same as Jews said to Jesus in Jhn 8:41-43 "...We have one Father--even God." 42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.43 "Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word." Ok, Jesus said, If God were your Father, you would love me. see?
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